Riley Norman, OT, Cadillac (MI)

[knuckles311]

Trust me, you guys are forgetting Michigan was starting to go downhill at the time, it was either right after they got embarrased by Texas in the rose bowl or the year after they lost to App State and were blown out an average Oregon team. You guys are forgetting not every recruit thinks the world of Michigan, they should not care about what they did when my grandpa was fighting in a war, they care about the current state of the program. Following the Texas loss, Michigan started to flail eventually Carr was fired.

Not commenting on the Cadillac scenario anymore...

Wow you are an idiot. Didn't UM beat Florida's ass that year? That Oregon team would have won the national title had Dennis Dixon not gotten hurt. There is just no point in even reading the tripe you post anymore because everything you 'contribute' is an absolute joke. I really tried to give you a chance and stay cordial, but you are definitely one of the worst posters on this board. Now quit hijacking this thread and GTFO.

[The D Zone]

Anyways, Arizona was smoking Oregon then Dixon got hurt and that was like week 7,8, or 9. Michigan won by 6 points......... If Morgan Trent or w/e did not catch Harvin on the 90 yard counter trap, Florida would of won and stopped brushing over the fact that, Michigan revamped their whole entire offense for Florida. Also Oregon lost to California when Dixon was healthy so stop making heavy false comments up such as Oregon back then would of won the title. Coming into the season Oregon sucked, the Michigan game is what game them confidence.

You should not of gotten me started, your the ones who led me into the discussion. On the reason for Michigan flailing since Young, why do u think no else responded because they know it's a possibility that was the turning point. It's hard to argue against the trurth.

[Marklar]

Michigan won by 6 points......... If Morgan Trent or w/e did not catch Harvin on the 90 yard counter trap, Florida would of won and stopped brushing over the fact that, Michigan revamped their whole entire offense for Florida. Also Oregon lost to California when Dixon was healthy so stop making heavy false comments up such as Oregon back then would of won the title. Coming into the season Oregon sucked, the Michigan game is what game them confidence.

Really. And if Mike Hart doesn't have career fumble #2 and #3 in the endzones, Michigan wins by 2 more touchdowns.

[The D Zone]

Yeah what do you expect Major Wright forced the fumbles, that's what happens when you get hard? Then Hart acts surprised be fumbled when he was used to skipping into the endzone all year long.

[Marklar]

Yeah what do you expect Major Wright forced the fumbles, that's what happens when you get hard? Then Hart acts surprised be fumbled when he was used to skipping into the endzone all year long.

Ya. He never got hit hard. They play patsy football in the Big10.

[The D Zone]

Well look at this way he never fumbled and ran wild on Big 10 teams but when they play bowl games he is forgotten.

From what I recall he was in piles and moving forward in Big 10 games, not getting drilled by safeties. Name a harder hitting safety from the Big 10 since 2005 who hits harder than Wright and Reggie Nelson, please?

[frydorov]

How are Florida douchebags. We know when to talk and when not to talk. I can see and I can read. A kid this past year was going to decommit from MSU, so the Msu fans destroyed his facebook with msgs letting them know how they felt, and he wound up at Ole Miss instead I think. Something like that. MSU is Mississippi State btw.

I can prove it because I see it. People just like to hate on Florida fans because we win so much besides the year Meyer lost control of the program. Florida State fans are dumb ones, they had one good coach in the history who made Fsu, fsu. Then they want him gone. Thats who u can focus your energy on, not the Florida fan who says the cold truth.


Yeah It will get a few responses because the average Michigan fan is now all of sudden in denial they sucked, after Vince Young University ran wild.


Before I see / read any emo posts i'll get straight to the point and use facts, not my tears/fake pride to argue.

2004 Is when I think Carr lost it. After an easy schedule they were 10-2 heading into the rose bowl, everything was right for Michigan at the time leading up to the Rose Bowl. Breaston was unstopable on the kick offs, every time he touched it was a guarenteed 40+ yards play. 6 returns 221 yards, FACT!. Vince Young 21 carries 192 yards and FOUR touchdowns. But its not that they could not stop Young, the moment of Michigans fortune was at 37 seconds left. Texas lines up for a field goal only 37 yards out, which is nothing for a Vince Young University's kicker at the time. So instead of calling a timeout with 37 seconds left and giving your a team a shot at actually winning the game. you Allow a kicker to kick a FG with 0 seconds left on the clock. That's when he lost interest in winning the games that matter, which as a result makes your team question your philosophy.

Through 2005 Michigan goes 9-3 against another laughable schedule and losses to a below average and a dysfunctional Nebraska team. Although the ending was dumb, that game should of never been close if Michigan gave it all they had. Zac Taylor? and Cory Ross ? have the game of their lifes... once again Michigan losses the game that matters the most.

2006, Michigan walks into Columbus without breaking a sweat and plays well up until the 4th quarter when they lost focus and committed the late hit on the worse heisman trophy winner in the ncaa's history. Then Michigan was too concerned about wanting to play OSU, thinking they deserved to be in the game before Florida, whose only loss was from a bull crap fumble call AT AUBURN!!! Jordan hare was the toughest stadium to play in at the time, plus thats when they would discover years later, Auburn was making noise from the speakers to make it even louder in the stadium. And Florida wasted little effort on putting away ohio state in national title game, they put OSU to bed that year just as easily as they did to Central Florida. Yet Michigan fans/players/ anyone can really make an argument Michigan should of been in there instead of Florida, here's best case situation, win the game vs Ohio State during the season, not lose and say your good enough to play against them against. Florida was more than good enough just to play against OSU, they dominated them in every aspect of the game besides a kickoff return (Which was clearly an illegal block which opened up the huge whole to walk through).

But Michigan has a chance to play USC and they simply looked disgraceful and like they did not even want to play in their second biggest game of the year, a win could of possibly earned a split of the title but no they just went through the motions. Michigan had TWELVE RUSHING YARDS the whole game. And its not like they passes more than they ran by a lot... 26 passes complete out of 40 compared to 20 carries.

You true Michigan fans had to be embarrassed after that USC game.

By now you guys are calling for Carr's head. But just waiting for that ONE extra game to snap at him. Luckily for you guys (DO NOT DENY THIS) it happens vs App State, the Michigan fans are outraged on the ESPN forums, Rivals Forums, Radio Shows, EVERYTHIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! every one wants Carr gone, saying basically this was his last straw. But things can still shape okay you have an inexperienced and unpredictable/dysfunctional Oregon team jsut waiting to fried. Nope Michigan looks lost, Oregon runs backyard plays on Michigan until its 39-7 the Michigan player kicked the OU player in the sack and following the game the outrage is insane. Following one close game to PSU, UM falsl to Wisconsin (Expected and livable) but does nothing in the boringest football game and worst osu/MI game ever played.... then you guys get a sigh of relief, Carr is finally gone.

Florida comes around, you guys actually took a month to design some good plays, instead of running the football right the other teams Defensive tackles fat ass. Florida does not expect Michgan to use the plays they did and was able to shutdown Harvin for most of the game and thats where the story ends.


I know its all an opinion but everything I said is 100% fact. Maybe you guys just needed an unbiased opinion to see Texas was the downfall. Thats when the excuse, "Michigan can't stop a mobile QB arose."

Not proofreading it took like 10 minutes to write that goign to spend 10 more lol, u get the key points

No

[The D Zone]

Why would you say, just no?

[digitalv]

Ronald Johnson's from Muskegon though and was in Division 2 finals. Cadillac and Muskegon are far different, Cadillac is like Division 6 or 7.

Cadillac had 909 students last year, 10 less than East Grand Rapids. Thus, Cadillac is Division 3, not Division 6 or 7

[The D Zone]

Cadillac had 909 students last year, 10 less than East Grand Rapids. Thus, Cadillac is Division 3, not Division 6 or 7

I was curious after I published that and went and looked. I feel stupid for posting that, my apologies. Thats why I just want to learn from the ignorant thing I said and move on before the MSU fans blow it out of proportion.

[pGekko]

D zone, go out to a bar or something. Life's short.

This thread is hilarious.