I'm convinced that if Monroe, Jerebko, and Daye were on the contending Championship teams, they'd all be zero playing time busts. Jerebko was a nobody in the summer league and pre-season but developed because there wasn't any choice with injuries. Monroe was getting abused by nobodies in the summer league and looked like a bust early on but had to play because Maxiell was having zero rebound games and they couldn't start Daye as a big.
Stuckey got his chance because there was zero depth in the back-court his rookie year. Tay had to wait to year 2 when they could finally dump Michael Curry. Michael freaking Curry?
I'm convinced the Pistons issue has been far more on the development side than on the drafting side. Thorpe over at ESPN who tracks development of young players considers Detroit one of the worst development organizations in the league and one of the worst places for a young guy to get drafted to...at least prior to this year. Even Phil Jackson while contending understands the importance of working in and developing young guys. It's what San Antonio has done. Dallas does it. Utah does it. And those teams consistently win over 50 games a year.
But I think that issue does go back to the top. No coach has job security in Detroit and the players run the show here. What's the point of developing for the future at the expense of 3 to 5 regular season wins when you probably won't be around to reap the benefits? A coach who takes Detroit from lottery to ECF gets fired. Then a coach who loses in the Finals the year after he wins the Championship gets fired.
If you look at how Detroit's draft picks get better once they leave Detroit (Memo goes from regressing to mostly out of rotation to All Star), Joe's draft record isn't as bad as advertised. Not when stacked up to all other organizations where all have busts and most rarely find a rotation guy in the 2nd round. Cleaves, White, and Darko were the 3 big flops yet ironically those were the three consensus picks by most experts at the time. The rest, where Joe didn't match mock draft boards, have mostly turned into decent values.
That development stability will start with ownership...where an owner isn't going to fire every coach who looks at him wrong.
just look at his picture, it says it all. He probably introduces himself to women like "I'm Tom Gores, and by the end of the night I'm gonna be balls deep in you because I'm that damn good."
I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.
And for everyone else excited that Joe may have made his last move as a Piston...just be warned that only two mid to small markets in the Mid-West have contended without a true Superstar since the NBA went to free agency. Indiana did it twice in very short bursts and the Pistons were the only team to do it more than two years in a row. If you were shopping for a new GM and had a mid-west franchise, Joe's resume is about as good as it gets. If that speaks to how pathetic Mid-West GMs have historically been, so be it. But I think that's just how the NBA is set up. Anything less than a large market in a cold weather city is set up for failure in a league where players rule everything but the owners. Pistons fire Joe...then you're next strategy is to be bad for multiple years until you find a true Superstar who can recruit for the franchise. And unfortunately, there's not many true Superstars on the horizon so this is a bad time to be a tanking organization.
Any chance the Pistons get in on the Derron Williams sweepstakes after next year?
I'm Scoresman, got a tatoo.