Couldn't agree more. The offensive line needs major improvement. Everybody rips Joey Heisman, but have we really seen what he could do with a pocket and some time?....Still a wins a win and whens the last time you could say the Lions were in 1st place??
on a side note why draft 3 WR in succession if you play a west coast offense and call short gain plays to pollard all day long?
maybe a west coast offense isnt the right choice with the weapons available downfield.....
Last edited by Fraserburn; 09-11-2005 at 11:41 PM.
Originally Posted by Fraserburn
and why draft a QB that is more fitted for a wide open/spread offense?
all good questions for dumb*ss millen
Originally Posted by Mike Illitch
I think it's more Mariuchi's reluctance to change his style and open up the playbook than anything else. I hate to be a Matt supporter, but I don't think Matt anticipated Mooch to stick so stringently to his West Coast style. That seems to be typical of this coaching staff, not able to adapt to the situation.
Did you hear that the 2 long passes by Joey, one to Rogers and the other to Kevin Johnson, were actually both audibles? I happened to catch that on the post game press conferences and I though that that was pretty interesting.
During the game the announcers were saying Joey has more freedom to audible this year. I just wish he would audible out of those stupid 3rd down running plays.
Hey I'll take the win and all the Joey Haters out there can keep on hate'n but this win says alot about the lions bouncing back and NOT giving up finally closing a game and winning a game they should have won unlike past years when they usually folded and lose a game aginst aq team that let them stay in it!! :
I liked the fact that the lions finally went deep on a couple plays. I was shocked that the lions receivers could not get alot of seperation but hey at least they took some shots. Folks b4 you get all gaga on the Lions D Favre misfired on wide open receivers. The Oline still needs to work on protection. Joey has not developed that side step move that Brady and Manning have. One more thing Pollard looks like Joey;s blanket much like Manning used him and Dallas Clark. A win is a win but I think this was more Greenbay losing than Lions winning. I still don;t have a true gauge on the this team yet but at Least were undefeated for now
TRRW put it best above. It's certain that other than the offensive line, all of the things he listed have improved. On that list, I think Joey's accuracy is the least of the concerns. The other things all need vast improvement. Hopefully they continue to move in the right direction next week. I guess we'll see.
I can't stand these things.
Glad to see perspective is being kept. A lot of good comments - the play calling still too conservative, but at least they threw the ball into the dammed end zone.
I will never understand the draw play on third and long. I've NEVER seen it work.
Yes, it's a win but 'cautiously optimistic' is the best way to put it.
It's a win though and I'll take it especially over the cheezwizheads. Anyone who was at the game - were Pack fans as obnoxious as ever in our house?
Absolutely right. Add to that, the improvement in the running game if they could run-block consistently. They were much improved in the second half in this regard, so maybe there is some hope.Originally Posted by Fraserburn
Well, I think that also goes back to offensive line. If Joey is flushed out of the pocket on a three-step drop, how in the hell is he going to get to look downfield?Originally Posted by Fraserburn
But, the point is that it's a win against a division opponent, and one where the room for improvement is more discernible and attainable. It's simple: when the Lions block better, they will be more effective on offense, period. Remember, the talented young receiving corps is still young, even Chuck Rogers (remember, not only has he lost NFL games due to injury, but he came out of MSU early), and they will do nothing but get better. Joey has shown, IMHO, that he has the tools to be an effective NFL QB. Kevin Jones will also be a contributor to the offense, when he actually gets some help up front.
An ugly win is still a win, and at this stage of the team's progress, that should be viewed as a good thing.
R.I.P. Same Old Spartans.
Yeah, I agree with everything that's been said. But we all know that they were fully capable of giving this gift from GB back to GB. But they didn't. They won. It's game 1. Let's hope they improve as the season progresses.
Couldn't agree with you more, do we not remember when we would give these games away, and yet we didn't, we needed look like the 85 bears, but we didn't look like the 2001 lions either, it makes me happy that we r 1-0, and now i want improvementOriginally Posted by MIDave