Baseball Hall of Fame inducts two...

**Willie Mays Hayes** · 01-06-2011, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by General283

And Lou Whittiker does not belong in the HOF. Only Detroiters believe he does.

Lou has the weakest resume of the three mentioned, but he does have a strong case.

**Lee Dog** · 01-06-2011, 11:03 AM

I'm fine with somebody saying that Lou's not a HOFer. The fact that he didn't make it past the first ballot is criminal.

**joeking1978** · 01-06-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Willie Mays Hayes

I have no issues with the writers "punishing" steroid users for their first 5-10 years of eligibility.

just as long as they remember this disdain when people like ARod, Giambi, Sheffield, Pudge, David Ortiz and Magglio are eligible for the HOF...

I have a feeling they won't.

**steve6884** · 01-06-2011, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by General283

That's a ctually a tough one because Robbie played on 3 different teams in his prime, and like 8 altogether. He was a Jay for 5 years (I think), but I believe that was the longest he was with any one team. I think his strongest years were with the Indians though.

And Lou Whittiker does not belong in the HOF. Only Detroiters believe he does.

You are right. The biggest problem for all the Tigers is that they played in Detroit. If Trammel and Whitaker played in New York they would be gods

**Fraserburn** · 01-06-2011, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by General283

That's a ctually a tough one because Robbie played on 3 different teams in his prime, and like 8 altogether. He was a Jay for 5 years (I think), but I believe that was the longest he was with any one team. I think his strongest years were with the Indians though.

And Lou Whittiker does not belong in the HOF. Only Detroiters believe he does.

5 years, 2 Championships and his own self professed desire to go in as a Jay should clinch it

**nesper** · 01-06-2011, 12:14 PM

if whitaker played 3 more years to equal morgan in years played he probably would have surpassed him in hits, rbi, homeruns and an outside chance at runs all while being a better fielder. im not a WAR guy but his was 7th best of all players from 1970-2000 so i read.

**Willie Mays Hayes** · 01-06-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Fraserburn

5 years, 2 Championships and his own self professed desire to go in as a Jay should clinch it

When it's a toss-up, I think guys should be able to choose their "hat" in the HOF.

**auburntigerdude** · 01-06-2011, 01:48 PM

To Quote Brandon Tierney . . . "the Hall of Fame, should be the Hall of Fame, no mediocre players, no good players; elite, top of the line players only."

I would go through the Baseball and Football hall of fames and clean house, too many mediocres in both.

Hall of Famers, Alomar, okay . . Joe Morgan, Okay . . Ty Cobb, Okay . .. Dale Murphy (my favorite player as a kid) NOOO

Dale Murphy Nooo
Mike Mussina Noooo
Steroid Cheaters Noooooooooo
Folks who only DH'd . . Noooooo

Of the two, the NFL does the best job of keeping mediocre players out . . . heck, Jim Plunkett is a HOFer in my book and he's not in!!! It took forever for Art Monk to get in!!!

**auburntigerdude** · 01-06-2011, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by steve6884

You are right. The biggest problem for all the Tigers is that they played in Detroit. If Trammel and Whitaker played in New York they would be gods

I don't know if that is true. The Mets have had a bunch of good players who are NOT HOFers, Yankees have had good players who haven't made HOF.

The Yankees, most of them, who have made the HOF are freaking awesome.

DiMaggio
Mantle

and the Executioners of Jeter, Posada and Mariano Rivera along with Joe Torre are walking into the Hall of Fame. Pettitte (sp?) is a steroid cheater and stunk without the Yankees big bats. Chuck Knobloch and Louis Soho are not Hall of Famers and never will be. I also think Paul O' Neil may get in, but he also won a world series with the Reds.

The problems I have with Trammel and Whitaker and many of the 84 Tigers is they only won "one" world series, if they had won a second they would be automatic.

and of course despite his high ERA, Jack Morris should be in.

**the King** · 01-06-2011, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by auburntigerdude

I don't know if that is true. The Mets have had a bunch of good players who are NOT HOFers, Yankees have had good players who haven't made HOF.

The Yankees, most of them, who have made the HOF are freaking awesome.

DiMaggio
Mantle

and the Executioners of Jeter, Posada and Mariano Rivera along with Joe Torre are walking into the Hall of Fame. Pettitte (sp?) is a steroid cheater and stunk without the Yankees big bats. Chuck Knobloch and Louis Soho are not Hall of Famers and never will be. I also think Paul O' Neil may get in, but he also won a world series with the Reds.