Random Thoughts Thread (which might include discussion)

[pGekko]

never mind.

[joeking1978]

Never mine what?

[pGekko]

Never mine what?

Rude comment. I retracted Joseph Islam.

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[Willie Mays Hayes]

1.) I know one thing that worked against me- I was literally the 1st guy to interview. I knew the hiring manager and he reached out to me before the position was even listed on Stryker's website. In fact, the same day I interviewed with him, HR called me and asked if I would be interested in interviewing for the position based off my resume submission on my profile on their site. When I asked if it was for a different position- she was shocked to find out I had already interviewed and it turned out she was calling me for the same job.

2.) Company B could be a great opportunity. Because it IS small (less than 50 employees) it may be my best opportunity to make VP of Sales (which is what I had hoped to accomplish with my last organization). I had discussed that with president of the company (who I've known for about 2 years since we cross paths often with common customers) and told him that would be my objective if I joined and exceeded expectations. The short term financial gain could be greater since they do very well... but my concern is they are a 1 trick pony right now. 1 product- with 4 variations of it. A home model that they sell via infomericals and what not... and a commercial model sold to gyms, rehab centers, etc. I would be heading up the commercial sales.

--the only reason I have NOT already accepted, is the offer was about 20k less than I anticipated. I also worry that being a small company, it is much more viotile and could be subject the same outcome with less long term guarantees.

3.) Fortunately, Company 2 is in the fitness industry... where Stryker is of course medical. So I know I wouldn't be crossing paths at all.

thoughts?

1) The time is still a deal killer, start to get used to the idea it won't be moving forward. If you get a call before your other deadline, then cross that bridge. I don't mean to be debbie downer, but I've seen this 100s of times.

2) If job title gets your dick hard then go for it. But honestly, a VP of Sales at one company may only equate to a Director of Sales somewhere else. (ie, titles mean jack sh!t, IMO) It's more about the sales revenue/sales people you manage than anything else.

3) Different industries, but both sales. Be careful about burning bridges...

[onionpouch]

1) Reach out to Christine, but time kills all deals so the delay is ominous. At this point if they still want to move forward, they need to explain about the last few weeks or it's a red flag. (it would also mean that you are likely their 2nd or 3rd choice)

2) **** or get off the pot with the other company. If you don't want the job or don't think it can help your career, let it go. If you think it can help your career, happiness, et cetera roll with it.

3) I wouldn't personally accept a job and pursue another. Particularly if you're in an industry where you run in to people over and over again. I've been stung by guys that leave right away and I, personally, black list them and will tell others that ask.

I don't work in the business world but it seems to me a company doesn't take their employees into consideration when doing what's best for them and their bottom line. In the end everyone is looking out for themselves, why not do the same? Take the job and pursue that other one if you wish.

[ACfromtheD]

Rude comment. I retracted Joseph Islam.

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Is that shopped?

[pGekko]

Is that shopped?

Nope, her ass is that big.

[GF-22a]

I think I may have screwed up my knee . I did golf nine holes afterwards.... That may not have been to wise

[Willie Mays Hayes]

I don't work in the business world but it seems to me a company doesn't take their employees into consideration when doing what's best for them and their bottom line. In the end everyone is looking out for themselves, why not do the same? Take the job and pursue that other one if you wish.

I agree with what you're saying in principle, but it's because they can make your life harder than you can make theirs.

Ultimately people should do what makes them happiest, but be prepared for certain consequences 3, 5, or 10 years down the road.

[phillyfan]

I agree with what you're saying in principle, but it's because they can make your life harder than you can make theirs.

Ultimately people should do what makes them happiest, but be prepared for certain consequences 3, 5, or 10 years down the road.

I agree. I wouldn't burn that bridge to make a few bucks in the short term.

[joeking1978]

1) The time is still a deal killer, start to get used to the idea it won't be moving forward. If you get a call before your other deadline, then cross that bridge. I don't mean to be debbie downer, but I've seen this 100s of times.

2) If job title gets your dick hard then go for it. But honestly, a VP of Sales at one company may only equate to a Director of Sales somewhere else. (ie, titles mean jack sh!t, IMO) It's more about the sales revenue/sales people you manage than anything else.

3) Different industries, but both sales. Be careful about burning bridges...

As far as VP goes, my thoughts are this... if a company is looking to hire a VP of any capacity for their organization, they will not even look at your resume unless you have comparable experience/titles and/or have been within their organization or with a comparable organization and have been specifically recruited. So, I could go to a company like Stryker... where it could be a 10 year journey to make such a level... or start at a smaller company where it is a 1-2 year possibility. Now of course, a VP at Stryker would pay 2-3 x's more than a VP with Company 2, but I'm sure you smell what I'm stepping in...

As for 3.)... agreed.