Do you retire Ben Wallace's jersey?

**robdiddy** · 06-15-2009, 10:49 AM

Since there is a chance he may retire at the end of this year, and the only team he was with long enough in his entire career to have his number retired would be here. Do you support the concept of retiring Ben Wallace Number?

I think there is absolutely no reason not to, he won 3 Defensive Player of the year awards. He also was part of a championship team.

**digitalv** · 06-15-2009, 10:54 AM

the dude was in Detroit for how long, six years? I don't think you can justify retiring a players number when he was exposed when he left your team for bigger money. Yes, he won DPOY 3x, but he benefited from the players around him. They made Ben look good.

**Luscious** · 06-15-2009, 10:55 AM

Under no circumstances. Of the guys who brought home the ring in 2004 the best case can be made for Chauncey. Ben Wallace isn't even close given they way he left town.

**Blindly Painted Bastard** · 06-15-2009, 10:56 AM

I think they should retire his number twice.

**det2orl** · 06-15-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by digitalv

the dude was in Detroit for how long, six years? I don't think you can justify retiring a players number when he was exposed when he left your team for bigger money. Yes, he won DPOY 3x, but he benefited from the players around him. They made Ben look good.

They have not been even close as a defensive unit since Ben left. It was
most certainly the other way around

That said, no way he gets his number retired IMO. The Pistons have set a precedent retiring Vinnie's though so anything is posiblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeee!!!!

**digitalv** · 06-15-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by det2orl

They have not been even close as a defensive unit since Ben left. It was
most certainly the other way around

That said, no way he gets his number retired IMO. The Pistons have set a precedent retiring Vinnie's though so anything is posiblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeee!!!!

maybe everyone made everyone look better? Cuz Ben hasn't looked nearly as good in Chicago/Cleveland since he bolted and Detroit hasn't looked good either.

If Ben made Detroit look good then he should have done the same in Chi/Clev no problem, and that just never happened.

**robdiddy** · 06-15-2009, 11:15 AM

merging this thread with one from a time when piston fans were bitter and hated ben ftl

**det2orl** · 06-15-2009, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by digitalv

maybe everyone made everyone look better? Cuz Ben hasn't looked nearly as good in Chicago/Cleveland since he bolted and Detroit hasn't looked good either.

If Ben made Detroit look good then he should have done the same in Chi/Clev no problem, and that just never happened.

Ben just got old....quickly.....banging around with guys much bigger because he was the only one who could check centers took a lot out of him.

He had people thinking that Chauncey/Rip/Sheed were good defenders.

**robdiddy** · 06-15-2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by det2orl

Ben just got old....quickly.....banging around with guys much bigger because he was the only one who could check centers took a lot out of him.

He had people thinking that Chauncey/Rip/Sheed were good defenders.

I wonder how good he woulda been if he was 6'11" with the same jumping abilities and strength he had.

**MSUJSCHOOL04** · 06-15-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by det2orl

They have not been even close as a defensive unit since Ben left. It was
most certainly the other way around

That said, no way he gets his number retired IMO. The Pistons have set a precedent retiring Vinnie's though so anything is posiblllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeee!!!!

4 DPOYs
Afros all over the place
Jerseys
"Goin to Work"

They have to retire his jersey.