OGT: Louisville vs. Michigan State -- 7:47pm, TBS

[General283]

Dawson - 5 star

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...n-Dawson-86158

Dawson defintely did not underachieve. In fact we really missed him last night

[phillyfan]

Dawson defintely did not underachieve. In fact we really missed him last night

Not he didn't. Just pointing out that izzo does get top recruits.

[General283]

Not he didn't. Just pointing out that izzo does get top recruits.

Only Det said he didn't know if they did, and he admitted he doesnt follow recruiting

[phillyfan]

I think some of his players underachieve because his system is rigid and if they can't mesh into it, they aren't going to look good.

[CrazyJoe79]

Not he didn't. Just pointing out that izzo does get top recruits.

You said they "always underachieve," which you have yet to back up...

[phillyfan]

You said they "always underachieve," which you have yet to back up...

You can't think Payne is living up to a top 20 recruit status.

[SportsFromA2]

so izzo and draymond say the team looked flat even before the game and they had a feeling this was going to happen.


umm, leadership fail?


and why the **** did izzo fly the team out there so early?

[nesper]

Was Payne's lung issue known when he was a 5 star?

[frydorov]

Are any of the big time recruits coming in next year for you guys a point guard? I honestly feel if MSU had a quality PG, they would have won that game..Im sorry..I know there are Appling defenders out there..But he has been just awful

Trice, their backup PG this year might slide into the starting role next year. That would bump Appling back to SG. It all depends on how Izzo wants to play it.
PG Trice, Valentine
SG Appling, Harris, Kearney,
SF Dawson, Byrd
PF Costello, Gauna, Kaminski
C Payne, Nix

Appling could play point & Dawson might play some PF.

[Youngin]

I dont think that at all..He does not shoot the ball..They got good looks all night..its on the players, period...And not the same since the cavs thing? Yeah, taking an unranked team at the beginning of the year to a big ten championship, a big ten tourney championship and the sweet 16 is awful coaching...

Can't say they got good looks all night. They did miss some good looks but Louisville shut them down and Izzo's bias against shots early in the shot clock helped because it allowed Louisville to be exgtremely comfortable and set on EVERY possession. The best way to deal with pressure is to attack it, get layups and open high percentage shots and score a team out of pressure. But Pitino knew they didn't have to worry about us attacking to score early.

We all know Izz is special but he is part of the team and when a team is shut down ALL GAME a coach has to share in that. I wouldn't call it being out coached but Pitino by far had the better night.

Your comment is easily the thing I hate most about State hoops, the players lose all of the games and never win any. Izz tongue lashes them into winning games but never has any impact on losses. That's not fair Tommy.

[knuckles311]

Trice, their backup PG this year might slide into the starting role next year. That would bump Appling back to SG. It all depends on how Izzo wants to play it.
PG Trice, Valentine
SG Appling, Harris, Kearney,
SF Dawson, Byrd
PF Costello, Gauna, Kaminski
C Payne, Nix

Appling could play point & Dawson might play some PF.

Would love to see that lineup. I think Kearney would get more PT at the 3 than Byrd though. Hopefully with a healthy offseason, Byrd can become the player he is supposed to be.