Neighborhood Watch guy chases down a kid, shoots him, charged with 2nd-degree murder

[det2orl]

Folks who had nothing to do with what happened.

You want to paint me a racist, go ahead. But please consider the way things are.

You wouldn't be the first to do it, TRRW beat you a long time ago.

If it's painted as a white on black crime it's going to enflame the black community vastly more than if it's Hispanic on black. That's just how things are.

I'm not sure how else you want me to explain it.

Not painting you as anything. The issue isn't so much the shooting. The dude is nuts. I think Martin being black is the main reason that Zimmerman, assumed he was "up to no good", followed him, and ultimately killed him.

But even worse is the handling by the PD. A predominately white Police Dept, who chief is white and by all accounts the officers in charge are also white. They seemed to do what they could to protect Zimmerman.

There seemed to little concern or thought of Martin. Just another young black male dead. He laid in the coroner's for a more than a day. His father thought he was missing.

[sseelhoff]

I've just gotten to the point I want the authorities to have the time to do what should be done.
Whether that is the local authorities, or federal. I want it to be done right. I don't mind the protests and such. I do mind when I read about a militant group coming in and exacting revenge. That scares me. Once you start down that road, it's very easy for things to way, way wrong.
Can't get to the guy in question, maybe they go after anyone who is working on the neighborhood watch for that neighborhood.

And this guy wasn't part of his neighborhood watch from what they said. See, those kinds of folks.....

Don't read my post as advocating raw vigilantism. I'm not. That appears to be what started this off in the first place.

I am advocating a full investigation, and fully exposing that which requires exposure. This includes the police department. If there is nothing there to merit punishment, that's fine, as long as the process is both complete and transparent.

[joeking1978]

Everyone should be pissed when something like this happens...the only thing i never understand is why the outrage seems to be non existent for a crime like this:

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ire-tv-station



I mean non existent via the media / white people / black people / EVERYBODY...this is a hate crime too, but Rev Al never jumps on these...if he did, he'd be more credible...

Good ol' double standards. Rev Al is a joke

[psycaz]

Not painting you as anything. The issue isn't so much the shooting. The dude is nuts. I think Martin being black is the main reason that Zimmerman, assumed he was "up to no good", followed him, and ultimately killed him.

But even worse is the handling by the PD. A predominately white Police Dept, who chief is white and by all accounts the officers in charge are also white. They seemed to do what they could to protect Zimmerman.

There seemed to little concern or thought of Martin. Just another young black male dead. He laid in the coroner's for a more than a day. His father thought he was missing.

I agree with you. If there are guys complicant in covering this up, I hope the feds nail them to the wall.

[SportsFromA2]

Either way, it's going to inflame the black community. The fact is, regardless of the racial background of the shooter, the young man was targeted because of his skin color. And the police appear to have helped the shooter out of a tight spot either because the shooter was not black or because the victim was black. It is little solace to the black community that the shooter was white or Hispanic; it appears from what we know that this kid was largely targeted because of his race, and no other significant reason. That ought to give everyone reason to be inflamed. This is 2012. We should not tolerate as a society vigilantes targeting people because of their skin color.

I think everyone here is familiar enough with my postings that I don't see racism at every turn. But when it is present, as I believe it is here (based on what I have read), it needs to be thoroughly investigated and exposed.

Bam.

And fair or unfair, that police department has been accused at least a couple of times of some sort of prejudice/unfairness/racial things...

I still don't understand how Zimmerman hasn't been charged..

[ACfromtheD]

Everyone should be pissed when something like this happens...the only thing i never understand is why the outrage seems to be non existent for a crime like this:

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ire-tv-station



I mean non existent via the media / white people / black people / EVERYBODY...this is a hate crime too, but Rev Al never jumps on these...if he did, he'd be more credible...

That's really her name?

[ACfromtheD]

Bam.

And fair or unfair, that police department has been accused at least a couple of times of some sort of prejudice/unfairness/racial things...

I still don't understand how Zimmerman hasn't been charged..

Is he in custody because I'm more surprised there haven't been villagers with pitchforks and firebombs at his door.

[det2orl]

Is he in custody because I'm more surprised there haven't been villagers with pitchforks and firebombs at his door.

Nope, not in custody. He reportedly is not staying at his home though.

[Marklar]

That's really her name?

Noticed that as well.

[motorcityjoe611]

The Stand Your Ground law or whatever it's called is really going to complicate this case. I would think first degree murder would be hard to prove without witnesses. The phone call doesn't prove Zimmerman (BTW, when's the last time you've heard of a Hispanic person with that last name?!).

I hope this guy gets at least 2nd degree and life but it's going to be interesting. A., they have that law and B., it's Florida.

[sseelhoff]

The Stand Your Ground law or whatever it's called is really going to complicate this case. I would think first degree murder would be hard to prove without witnesses. The phone call doesn't prove Zimmerman (BTW, when's the last time you've heard of a Hispanic person with that last name?!).

I hope this guy gets at least 2nd degree and life but it's going to be interesting. A., they have that law and B., it's Florida.

The problem with the Stand your Ground law as a defense in this case is that he (Zimmerman) was not standing his ground. He was the pursuer. And he was told by the police dispatcher to stop chasing the guy. I don't believe that law will help Zimmerman. That law says you can defend yourself, and do not have to retreat. Zimmerman was well beyond that point.