Neighborhood Watch guy chases down a kid, shoots him, charged with 2nd-degree murder

[The_Real_Right_Way]

What......change my position? I still say GZ did not commit perjury as you say.

Talking about the bond hearing and you link the 911 call? OK there.

How is this a change? Now I know why most people on this board don't even bother replying to your spew.

The statement in the 911 call was his original statement that he lied about at the bond hearing.

Stick with me, this isn't rocket science, just a comparison of his original statement that clearly shows he lied on the stand.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

In a plea for public support he tried to apologize to TM's parents and lied under oath saying he thought Trayvon was the same age as he was, yet he told the 911 operator he was a teenager. Then he filed papers about his financial condition and did not disclose that he had $200,000+ in money generated from his website, as such the judge ruled on his bail.

LOL I KNEW IT.

First of all he stated that he thought TM was a bit younger than he was was, not the same age. Secondly his wife was asked about the $200,000, which by the way was not available from the PayPal Account at the time of his bond hearing.

Dude, seriously if you are going to switch words around to inflate your point of view, at least get it right from the bias article you got it from, "theroot.com"

Too easy.

LOL

Judge revokes bail for George Zimmerman in Trayvon Martin case

A Florida judge on Friday revoked the bail for George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case, saying he had misled the court about his finances, and ordered him to present himself to the court within 48 hours. Prosecutors alleged that Zimmerman, 28, hid from the court the fact that he had raised $135,000 on a website he set up before he was granted $150,000 bail on April 20. Zimmerman is facing second-degree murder charges in the shooting death of Martin, 17, in February.

In a hearing in Sanford, Fla., that Zimmerman did not attend, Judge Kenneth Lester said Zimmerman engaged in a "material falsehood" about his finances. Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda said Zimmerman's wife, Shelly, led the court to believe they were penniless, which he called a “blatant lie."

De la Rionda said the Zimmermans spoke in "code" about moving finances around during telephone calls while George Zimmerman was in custody. The state also alleged Zimmerman held a second passport after surrendering one to the court when bail was granted. In revoking bail, Lester said he was not swayed by arguments about the second passport, often routinely obtained by people who lose their passports.

Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, said it was his fault the court did not have the second passport earlier. Trayvon Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump said Lester's finding that "Zimmerman was dishonest is very important because his credibility is the most important thing in this entire case."

"Credibility is the issue and we think it is the most important ruling so far in this entire case," Crump said. The revocation motion was filed as a hearing opened on the confidentiality of evidence in the case, including Zimmerman’s statement to police. A consortium of more than a dozen media groups is asking the judge not to seal records in the case. Prosecutors and Zimmerman's attorney fear witnesses will be harassed if their names are publicized, but the media consortium says that's not a good enough reason to keep what is usually a public record from being released.

On Friday, De la Rionda asked that the names of witnesses be sealed. Lester said it would take several weeks to review evidence before any is unsealed. O'Mara told Lester he wants "one trial" before a jury and that the case has an enormous amount of scrutiny on the Web, saying thousands of blogs are following the case. O'Mara said if witnesses are identified publicly they will be subject to requests for information from the media and may change their stories, complicating things in court.

He concurred with the state's request for a court review of witness No. 9, who made an anonymous call to Sanford police days after the shooting and leveled accusations that Zimmerman was racist.

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That is what is known as perjury....for those that supposedly knew what it was.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

George Zimmerman's credibility could be issue in legal case after bond revoked
Case hinges on jurors believing his account of what happened the night of Trayvon Martin's death, experts say
Saturday, June 2, 2012, 8:46 AM

SANFORD, Fla. — The credibility of Trayvon Martin’s shooter could be an issue at trial after a judge said that George Zimmerman and his wife lied to the court about their finances to obtain a bond, legal experts say.

That’s because the case hinges on jurors believing his account of what happened the night the 19-year-old was killed.

The questioning of Zimmerman’s truthfulness by the judge on Friday could undermine the defendant’s credibility if it is brought up at trial. It also may complicate how his defense presents him as a witness, said Orlando-area attorney Randy McCLean, who is a former prosecutor.

“The other key witness, unfortunately is deceased,” McClean said. “Basically, Zimmerman is going to be asking the jury to believe his version of the facts ... As the case stands now, his credibility is absolutely critical to the case.”

Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to second-degree murder for the February shooting. The neighborhood watch volunteer says he shot Martin in self-defense because the unarmed 17-year-old was beating him up after confronting Zimmerman about following him in a gated community outside Orlando.

Witness accounts of the rainy night Martin was shot are spotty. There is no video of the fight, though photos prosecutors have released showed Zimmerman with wounds to his face and the back of his head.

Zimmerman’s credibility with the judge would be important if O’Mara tries to get a judge without the jury to dismiss the charges based on the law, said Orlando defense attorney David Hill.

“If he was in on something that was not truthfully revealed to the judge, when there is a ‘stand your ground’ hearing, of course you’re going to second-guess him,” Hill said.

Both McClean and Hill said O’Mara would be able to challenge the admissibility of the bond revocation at trial by questioning its relevance.

Zimmerman was arrested 44 days after the killing, and during a bond hearing in April, his wife, Shellie, testified that the couple had limited funds available. The hearing also was notable because Zimmerman took the stand and apologized to Martin’s parents.

Prosecutors pointed out in their motion that Zimmerman had $135,000 available then. It had been raised from donations through a website he set up and they suggested more has been collected since and deposited in a bank account.

Shellie Zimmerman was asked about the website at the hearing, but she said she didn’t know how much money had been raised. Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester set bail at $150,000. The 28-year-old was freed a few days later after posting $15,000 in cash — which is typical — and has since been in hiding.

Prosecutor Bernie De la Rionda complained Friday, “This court was led to believe they didn’t have a single penny. It was misleading and I don’t know what words to use other than it was a blatant lie.” The judge agreed and ordered Zimmerman returned to jail by Sunday afternoon.

“Does your client get to sit there like a potted plant and lead the court down the primrose path? That’s the issue,” Lester said. “He can’t sit back and obtain the benefit of a lower bond based upon those material falsehoods.”

The defense countered that Zimmerman and his wife never used the money for anything, which indicated “there was no deceit.” His attorney, Mark O’Mara, said it wouldn’t be a problem to bring Zimmerman back into custody by the deadline.

The judge said he would schedule a hearing after Zimmerman is back in custody so he could explain himself.

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This guy has a criminal past and is a perjurer whose credibility is shot. At this point he is now up to 3 counts of perjury based on what I saw and this new evidence. This after being on the stand only a few minutes. THE GUY IS A LIAR. This confirms my belief that his accounting of what happened cannot be trusted, I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

[juicyj024]

TRRW is unreal, it has to take a pretty "special" brain, to be able to blindly take sides based soley on skin color. Racism sucks. Reverse Racism sucks. Whatever you call the way this guy thinks sucks. (please don't think I am speaking based on this thread)

[flemgoblue]

TRRW is unreal, it has to take a pretty "special" brain, to be able to blindly take sides based soley on skin color. Racism sucks. Reverse Racism sucks. Whatever you call the way this guy thinks sucks. (please don't think I am speaking based on this thread)

Agreed.. Between that and trying to turn this site into a democratic slurpfest, its annoying.

[Willie Mays Hayes]

TRRW is unreal, it has to take a pretty "special" brain, to be able to blindly take sides based soley on skin color. Racism sucks. Reverse Racism sucks. Whatever you call the way this guy thinks sucks. (please don't think I am speaking based on this thread)

TRRW is not a bigot, he just says things that makes upper middle class white folk uneasy. Its clear the vast majority of you know nothing about poor people.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

TRRW is unreal, it has to take a pretty "special" brain, to be able to blindly take sides based soley on skin color. Racism sucks. Reverse Racism sucks. Whatever you call the way this guy thinks sucks. (please don't think I am speaking based on this thread)

You have no response for the FACT that Zimmerman is a LIAR. Like a typical person who doesn't want to see the facts for what they are, you conjure up your own feelings and try and project them on others.

The truth is, you can't find a thing I said in this thread that would indicate my position is based on anything but the facts. Yet, the basis of your diatribe tells me a lot about who you are.

[joeking1978]

TRRW is not a bigot, he just says things that makes upper middle class white folk uneasy. Its clear the vast majority of you know nothing about poor people.

So we don't understand TRRW because he is poor? I could understand that...

[Willie Mays Hayes]

So we don't understand TRRW because he is poor? I could understand that...

Poor people are not on sports message boards...

To say TRRW'a delivery method is abrasive is being kind. However, if you read between the lines, it's clear that he understands the hardships poor people in America have. He may have personally experienced it or he may have become close to it somehow. I'm not going to speculate.

You may differ in opinion on how (or if) the problem needs to be addressed and that's understandable. Calling him a bigot is out of line and reeks of your own ignorance.

[psycaz]

Poor people are not on sports message boards...

To say TRRW'a delivery method is abrasive is being kind. However, if you read between the lines, it's clear that he understands the hardships poor people in America have. He may have personally experienced it or he may have become close to it somehow. I'm not going to speculate.

You may differ in opinion on how (or if) the problem needs to be addressed and that's understandable. Calling him a bigot is out of line and reeks of your own ignorance.

So it's ok for him to call anyone who disagree with him ignorant, a bigot, and racist and it's ok. Anyone who thinks he is a bigot and a racist is ignorant and probably a bigot and a racist. I use the last two terms as all three go hand in hand when TRRW posts. It seems if you are one, you are all three as alluded to in his postings.

Just trying to make sure I understand how this stuff works.

Cough, BS, cough

[auburntigerdude]

TRRW is not a bigot, he just says things that makes upper middle class white folk uneasy. Its clear the vast majority of you know nothing about poor people.

Is this a joke??? TRRW is a hate monger, he spews nothing but venom and garbage from daily kos or huffingtonpost . . he is a liberal who hates anyone who realizes that government isn't GOD.