Neighborhood Watch guy chases down a kid, shoots him, charged with 2nd-degree murder

[pGekko]

pfft.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

Police Dispatcher has no authority to tell TM to go to store or not go to store, just as police dispatcher has no authority to tell GZ to follow or not follow a suspicious person in his neighborhood.

Indeed they do have the authority to direct people in emergency situations and they are often held liable for what they tell people. Dispatchers work hand in hand with police officers and "direct" people what to do so they don't get hurt or confused as perps when the cops arrive. The have specific protocols to advise people in emergency situations and do so on a regular basis. To act like they are not an authoritative figure when someone calls 911 is pure idiocy.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

Size matters because the characterization of the scenario is "how could GZ think TM posed any threat, he was a scrawny, skinny little kid."

When the actual evidence is TM was a rather large young man.

It also changes the perception that GZ could not have been physically overwhelmed by this small child when you the actual evidence is it was a strapping young man.

Not sure which prosecutor has characterized the situation as that way but I haven't heard it. If GZ would have stayed in his car he would not have been in a position to be overwhelmed by anyone.

The fact that he pursued him thus creating some kind of confrontation is poor decision making on GZ part. The fact that his poor decision making resulted in the death of an unarmed teenager is negligent.

[pGekko]

All irrelevant to the law, but fun to talk about for sure.

[acman]

Not sure which prosecutor has characterized the situation as that way but I haven't heard it. If GZ would have stayed in his car he would not have been in a position to be overwhelmed by anyone.

The fact that he pursued him thus creating some kind of confrontation is poor decision making on GZ part. The fact that his poor decision making resulted in the death of an unarmed teenager is negligent.

GZ obeyed all directions given to him by the call center, what has been presented to the public is the medias version of photoshop, cutting and pasting everything from police convo's to photoshopping TMs face.

TM didn't need to threaten and then beat up GZ, TM could have walked away from the situation and he'd still be alive today. Ohh sure TM may have been unarmed but hands can be just as deadly(ask any black belt or military personal) as a weapon. Also let's get facts straight here. GZ wasn't waiving around a gun or even implying he had a firearm, TM forced GZ to pull a firearm when TM wouldn't stop bashing his head in the ground.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

GZ obeyed all directions given to him by the call center, what has been presented to the public is the medias version of photoshop, cutting and pasting everything from police convo's to photoshopping TMs face.

TM didn't need to threaten and then beat up GZ, TM could have walked away from the situation and he'd still be alive today. Ohh sure TM may have been unarmed but hands can be just as deadly(ask any black belt or military personal) as a weapon. Also let's get facts straight here. GZ wasn't waiving around a gun or even implying he had a firearm, TM forced GZ to pull a firearm when TM wouldn't stop bashing his head in the ground.

So you are taking GZ word that TM threatened him??? Sadly TM isn't here to speak for himself. What you are conveniently leaving out is that GZ was in a completely different place when he called in to 911 than where he was at when he shot and killed an unarmed kid. Do you think the media just magically placed him there?

[flemgoblue]

Not that i'm necessarily advocating what GZ ultimately did, but I hardly see following a suspicious person as any kind of wrongdoing.

[pGekko]

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/d...icle-1.1080161

Now there is much more extensive medical evidence that would tend to support Zimmerman’s version of events. This version, if true, would establish self-defense even if Zimmerman had improperly followed, harassed and provoked Martin.
A defendant, under Florida law, loses his “stand your ground” defense if he provoked the encounter — but he retains traditional self-defense if he reasonably believed his life was in danger and his only recourse was to employ deadly force.


Thus, if Zimmerman verbally provoked Martin, but Martin then got on top of Zimmerman and banged his head into the ground, broke his nose, bloodied his eyes and persisted in attacking Zimmerman — and if Zimmerman couldn’t protect himself from further attack except by shooting Martin — he would have the right to do that. (The prosecution has already admitted that it has no evidence that Zimmerman started the actual fight.)

[The_Real_Right_Way]

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/d...icle-1.1080161

Otherwise know as, "THE P-U-S-S-Y WITH A GUN LAW".

If in fact, that is how the chain of events took place, I guarantee that this p-u-s-s-y GZ would not have hunted down anyone if he didn't have a gun. He would have kept his sorry ass in the car, instead he felt all emasculated with a gun. Sadly if this is indeed the course of events, he stepped into some sh!t he didn't plan on and couldn't handle him self in hand-to-hand combat and like the P-U-S-S-Y he is resorted to shooting an unarmed teenager.

What a pathetic P-U-S-S-Y. He deserves to be in prison.....if in fact this was what happened.

[pGekko]

Hard ass is dead. Not much better.

He doesn't deserve to be in prison, that's the whole damn point of the article.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

Have they tracked down those ignorant boneheads that were selling targets simulating the appearance of Trayvon Martin yet. It is this type of ignorance that sheds light on what some of these GZ defenders are all about. I am waiting for their names to be published.