Neighborhood Watch guy chases down a kid, shoots him, charged with 2nd-degree murder

[pGekko]

Your speculation is wrong because of my speculation. Repeat 400 times

More times than that.

[det2orl]

I don't. What the 911 dispatcher said is totally irrelevant to what GW (GZ) is responsible for under the law.

How is it totally irrelevant if GZ's ignoring that directive/request/whatever is the reason that escalated the situation and made a confrontation pretty much inevitable?

[The_Real_Right_Way]

How is it totally irrelevant if GZ's ignoring that directive/request/whatever is the reason that escalated the situation and made a confrontation pretty much inevitable?

Agree, and even regardless of a directive from the PD dispatch, GZ took the law in his own hands. It is interesting to me why people think he shouldn't take responsibility for that?

[pGekko]

How is it totally irrelevant if GZ's ignoring that directive/request/whatever is the reason that escalated the situation and made a confrontation pretty much inevitable?

It has no impact on the law one way or the other, does it?

I guess it depends if we are talking Florida laws or TRWW laws.

[MoOff24]

Agree, and even regardless of a directive from the PD dispatch, GZ took the law in his own hands. It is interesting to me why people think he shouldn't take responsibility for that?

because it depends on wtf happened when GZ and TM met up..and none of us know what happened. going up to someone and asking what they are doing around here isn't illegal last I looked nor is it inherently irresponsible. now if he just went up to him and shot him for no reason thats one thing...if GZ asked TM what he was doing around here and then TM immediately attacked GZ...that changes the entire story. and with differing witness accounts and contradictory "facts" flying around...i'm not sure how you or anyone else can unequivocally make that determination.

[pGekko]

because it depends on wtf happened when GZ and TM met up..and none of us know what happened. going up to someone and asking what they are doing around here isn't illegal last I looked nor is it inherently irresponsible. now if he just went up to him and shot him for no reason thats one thing...if GZ asked TM what he was doing around here and then TM immediately attacked GZ...that changes the entire story. and with differing witness accounts and contradictory "facts" flying around...i'm not sure how you or anyone else can unequivocally make that determination.

That doesn't matter. Once a 911 person tells you that following someone is not necessary, you are responsible for their life no matter what happens.

[pGekko]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g.html?hpid=z6
manipulation.

[RickFromFowler]

That doesn't matter. Once a 911 person tells you that following someone is not necessary, you are responsible for their life no matter what happens.

This is completely false. A 911 operator is not a police officer. They have no authority. Outside of a high school diploma and some communication training almost anyone can be a 911 operator.

[MoOff24]

dont know if this has been posted.

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf

[pGekko]

This is completely false. A 911 operator is not a police officer. They have no authority. Outside of a high school diploma and some communication training almost anyone can be a 911 operator.

Yea, that was sarcastic.

[The_Real_Right_Way]

because it depends on wtf happened when GZ and TM met up..and none of us know what happened. going up to someone and asking what they are doing around here isn't illegal last I looked nor is it inherently irresponsible. now if he just went up to him and shot him for no reason thats one thing...if GZ asked TM what he was doing around here and then TM immediately attacked GZ...that changes the entire story. and with differing witness accounts and contradictory "facts" flying around...i'm not sure how you or anyone else can unequivocally make that determination.

This really comes down to the following:
1. Some people are going to take GZ word that Trayvon attacked him and base their sole view on that uncorroborated point.
2. Some feel that GZ should be held accountable for killing Trayvon and should have been arrested because for without his ill-advised actions, he would not have put himself in such a position to kill a kid who had every right to be where he was at.

I am in camp #2.